Comments on: Frank Mitloehner: Unvegan Hero https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/ The Unvegan Thu, 12 May 2022 11:22:17 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.5 By: The Unvegan https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1087456 Tue, 27 Jun 2017 00:58:06 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-1087456 In reply to Jimmy Stewart.

Is this your first time using the internet? If so, you’ll be fucking amazed at the minutiae you find that people are interested in. Hope all is well in Brisbane!

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By: Jimmy Stewart https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1087455 Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:18:01 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-1087455 Why are you proud of having a diet that requires zero effort? Most people eat meat, but don’t write a fucking blog about it.

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By: John Dague https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-880887 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:52:02 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-880887 Mitlohner is just telling the truth about livestock and air quality. He told the United Nations FAO that their report “Livestock’s Long Shadow” was flawed, and they put him on the oversight committee, and he fixed their report.

And if you look at the effect on greenhouse gas emissions if you quit feeding corn to U.S. beef cattle, here it is. The corn will be used to increase the human population of the world by 300 million people. If the surplus grain goes to China, the 300 million additional Chinese will increase global emissions by 2.0 billion metric tons. If the surplus grain goes to Russia, the 300 million additional Russias will increase global emissions by 3.6 billion metric tons. If the surplus grain stays in the U.S., the 300 million additional Americans will increase global emissions by 4.8 billion metric tons.

Wake up and smell the roast beef people! Christian Peters’ research at Cornell University (published in the journal Renewable Agriculture and Food Systems) concluded that land suited to the production of dairy and meat but not fruits, grains, and vegetables is more readily available. So production of beef and milk is necessary to produce food from all available land.

A vegetarian diet is not the most efficient in terms of land use.

And starvation is caused by a local unsustainable population of individuals (more people than the land will provide for living in the same area). That is called overpopulation. People are going to have to learn how to control their population, and how to produce food for themselves, if they intend to be sustainable. How much food did you grow today?

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By: Tom Petersen https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-130418 Wed, 09 May 2012 16:41:31 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-130418 You are all correct, he does not know about air quality; he has training in behavior and now he gets money from companies, such as Elanco, to run trials, which many of them are poorly design, he does not know math either. His graduate students are taught to run show business not research, and few times they lie about what exactly they did on the research. Please be careful with him.

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By: markum https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-5017 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:12:26 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-5017 “To start, I don’t think UC Davis is funded by animal product companies. That would be strange for a public university.”

UC Davis is in the heart of Central Valley, where there are a lot of farms. Frank Mitloehner works in the Agricultural Air Quality lab (see cows in picture at lab’s home page (http://animalscience.ucdavis.edu/faculty/mitloehner/people/index.htm). The millions of dollars in funding includes industry, according to the pdf available from the google cache by googling “uc davis air quality fact sheet”. Looks like that fact sheet is no longer available. Also, the google cache for “uc davis air quality funding private industry” gives original wording as “Budget/funding: $4-5 million annually. Sources: Private industry …”

Or you can check Frank’s other group, the UC Davis ASI, discussing industry donations (http://childrensgarden.ucdavis.edu/newsroom/ASI%20EAB%20Report%202009.pdf). That pdf has not been buried.

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By: The Unvegan https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3748 Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:44:45 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-3748 In reply to William.

Nice, that one is a classic.

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By: William https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3739 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:15:51 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-3739 I believe a picture is a thousand words, therefore, here it is :

http://www.buzzfeed.com/googlereader/vegan-carnivore

A whole book-worth of words

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By: Arno https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3697 Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:31:58 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-3697 Writing the synthesis was supported by a $26,000 research grant from the Beef Checkoff Program, which funds research and other activities, including promotion and consumer education, through fees on beef producers in the U.S.

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By: Mgt_Watching https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3645 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:18:53 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-3645 Full disclosure – Vegan for 20 years, not preachy. Here I agree with the Unvegan. The problem is with what we feed animals. The reason we feed animals grain is largely due to the “farm bill”. There is a huge incentives/subsidies for farms to grow corn and therefore we get ethanol, livestock feed and soda with high fructose corn syrup. Without those subsidies most people would curtail their meat consumption as the price would reflect the true cost of production.

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By: The Unvegan https://unvegan.com/heroes/frank-mitloehner-unvegan-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-3642 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:58:48 +0000 https://unvegan.com/?p=4756#comment-3642 I love all the feedback and I’m glad everyone is responding so respectfully.

No doubt there are issues with the agricultural system, but they are not simply issues with meat. It really boils down to being a grain-based agricultural system. Subsiding on grains is no less devastating to the environment as subsiding on meat fed by grains, but consuming beef fed on grass is actually the way nature intended, because an overpopulation of herbivores degrades land as well.

The point is, giving up meat isn’t some sudden cure-all to the environment, in fact it can harm the environment a lot more than people think.

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